HW: WOTEOT

[Richard Lockwood]

Hi Steve,

Quite agree.

However, if I own the album on vinyl, and don't have a turntable any more,
I'd still want to be able to listen to it.

Agreed, I'd rather buy it than have to "pirate" it, as you say, but if a
recording's no longer available, for no good reason...

I think I'm agreeing and disagreeing with you simultaneously, as you did
with me.  :-)

It's a dilemma, frankly.

Cheers,

Rich.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Youles" <youless at LVCM.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: HW: WOTEOT


> I totally sympathise with these sentiments, and simultaneously feel that
it
> is totally the wrong way to go about things.  There is huge demand for
> WOTEOT to be made available on CD again - along with Quark, ASAM, PXR5,
> Hawklords and whatever else is missing from the pantheon.  That isn't
going
> to happen if people do things that are (technically) piractical and
> illegal, however understandable that is.  I'd also chip in with the
> observation that copying official albums is not the same as audience
taping
> of live gigs.  I've slightly more sympathy with the latter, but am quite
> ready to accept the band's ban on that.
>
> *Of course*, any Hawkwind fan who's committed enough to belong to this
list
> is not going to be satisfied with MP3 copies, or a tape.  They want the
> real album, on an official release.  I know that.  You know that.  But the
> accountants who run major record companies (i.e. the only people who could
> ensure these works get re-released) don't know that.  They are bean
> counters who will regard this kind of copying as loss of sales.  And let's
> face it, Hawkwind's back catalogue has to be their main commercial asset,
> more so than future albums.
>
> (As a case in point, I have an audience-taping CDR of the 18/08/01
> Canterbury Sound Festival gig.  When I get my hands on the official
> release, I'll break the CDR into a thousand pieces, place the wreckage on
> the scanner and post an image of it on my website for all to see.)
>
> So, while I don't think this is an immoral action, I don't think it's The
> Right Thing To Do, either.
>
> I hope that wasn't shouty!  And forty quid for a Dojo version of the album
> seems like a reasonably good price to have attained...
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:15:28 -0000, Richard Lockwood
> <rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK> wrote:
>
> >Hi guys,
> >
> >I know a few of you expressed interest in my mate's copy of Warrior.
Just
> >to let you know he's sold it for forty quid on Amazon.
> >
> >He's asked me to say thanks for the interest and all that - and if
there's
> >anyone who wanted it just for its musical qualities, he's ripped it out
to
> >MP3.  So, as WOTEOT is deleted, anyone who wants it contact me, and I'll
> >put you in touch with Sean.
>
> <snip>
>
> >If an album is deleted (as WOTEOT is), and you want to hear it, and your
> >mate owns a copy, is it immoral for him to tape (or CD) it and give you a
> >copy knowing full well that you're going to keep it?
>
> <snip>
>
> >So, now he's sold it, is forty quid for the Dojo version a good price
(for
> >him!)?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Rich.
>