Off: CD Promo

[Stephe]

Hi Paul, Well you know if it was 5 years down the road, it would probably be
a rare item right. Noone would think much then. THese guys are selling them
hot off the press. I still think its a slap in the face. This is brand new.
The album isn't released yet. Isn't a promo supposed to promote? How can it
promote, if its free and has to be paid for? Record stores don't sell
promo's. Maybe they should, but they'd get prosecuted. Its illegal. Read
whats on the cd!!!
I don't think a true HW fan would even sell theirs. Were these other promos,
collectors have bought given out by the band? Did I miss something or maybe
its back in the olden days before I was a fan. I may be mistaken, but its
free for the asking via the HW website. Selling it is making money on the
band. Its BOLLOCKS!!!!! Same as selling boots. If one was to use it for
charity as Colin has, then why not do it as a raffle at a gig? It would
probably generate a better response.  Selling it is wrong, and I think any
fan who does it should be shot in the head. If your not a collector, that
doesn't give you the right to sell. Its illegal!! See you in court. Cheers
Stephe


Not all fans are collectors.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mather" <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: Off: CD Promo


> On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 19:13 -0400, Stephe wrote:
>> Hi Mike, My copy says, Promotion use only, not for sale. Thats a slap in
>> the
>> face to me. The band could have sold these, but they gave them to us for
>> nothing. How do you know the band won't reconsider doing this again in
>> the
>> future? I would love to get free gifts from the band. Someone paid to put
>> this together. They aren't making any money either. I realize some fans
>> may
>> not want theres, but why not just pass it on to someone who doesn't have
>> one. Selling these is almost as bad as selling bootlegs. The few fans
>> doing
>> this are making money off of the band. I think its called RIP OFF. Cheers
>> Stephe
>
> It may be sage to observe that, whatever you decide to call
> these---"gifts from the band," "manna from heaven," or whatever---you
> should note what is printed on them: promotional use.  They are promos,
> designed to promote the upcoming release, and no different to all the
> promos that have been issued during the history of the band.  (The only
> difference might be in a wider distribution, including directly to fans
> or passport holders.)
>
> Lots of fans, including some Kollectors on this list, have bought
> Hawkwind promos in their time.  All those promos also say "for
> promotional use only, not for sale," and all of them were also
> ultimately paid for by the band.  In the case of vinyl, fans may have
> bought more than one of the same item over time, when a better copy
> turned up.  They likely will have *GASP* sold their old one when that
> happened.  Are those fans committing a "RIP OFF" of Hawkwind?  (I've
> never heard anyone complain about it in the past.)  When I've seen
> people announce their Hawkwind collection for sale, I've never seen the
> caveat, "oh, except the promos, because that would be a doubleplus
> ungood RIP OFF of the band." :-)
>
> This is all getting a bit strange.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
> --
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
>        --- Frank Vincent Zappa