Off: CD Promo

[Michael Crook]

Well I don't know about being illegal, but I think you
hit the nail on the head when you said "I don't think
a true HW fan would even sell theirs"

Of course they wouldn't - they'll treasure it!!
I think we have to accept that a minority of people (I
won't call them fans) are going to try and a make a
few bucks by selling the free CD - I agree its
bollocks but it's just being naive to think this won't
happen - human nature??

Mick

--- Stephe <lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET> wrote:

> Hi Paul, Well you know if it was 5 years down the
> road, it would probably be
> a rare item right. Noone would think much then.
> THese guys are selling them
> hot off the press. I still think its a slap in the
> face. This is brand new.
> The album isn't released yet. Isn't a promo supposed
> to promote? How can it
> promote, if its free and has to be paid for? Record
> stores don't sell
> promo's. Maybe they should, but they'd get
> prosecuted. Its illegal. Read
> whats on the cd!!!
> I don't think a true HW fan would even sell theirs.
> Were these other promos,
> collectors have bought given out by the band? Did I
> miss something or maybe
> its back in the olden days before I was a fan. I may
> be mistaken, but its
> free for the asking via the HW website. Selling it
> is making money on the
> band. Its BOLLOCKS!!!!! Same as selling boots. If
> one was to use it for
> charity as Colin has, then why not do it as a raffle
> at a gig? It would
> probably generate a better response.  Selling it is
> wrong, and I think any
> fan who does it should be shot in the head. If your
> not a collector, that
> doesn't give you the right to sell. Its illegal!!
> See you in court. Cheers
> Stephe
>
>
> Not all fans are collectors.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Mather" <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU>
> To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Off: CD Promo
>
>
> > On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 19:13 -0400, Stephe wrote:
> >> Hi Mike, My copy says, Promotion use only, not
> for sale. Thats a slap in
> >> the
> >> face to me. The band could have sold these, but
> they gave them to us for
> >> nothing. How do you know the band won't
> reconsider doing this again in
> >> the
> >> future? I would love to get free gifts from the
> band. Someone paid to put
> >> this together. They aren't making any money
> either. I realize some fans
> >> may
> >> not want theres, but why not just pass it on to
> someone who doesn't have
> >> one. Selling these is almost as bad as selling
> bootlegs. The few fans
> >> doing
> >> this are making money off of the band. I think
> its called RIP OFF. Cheers
> >> Stephe
> >
> > It may be sage to observe that, whatever you
> decide to call
> > these---"gifts from the band," "manna from
> heaven," or whatever---you
> > should note what is printed on them: promotional
> use.  They are promos,
> > designed to promote the upcoming release, and no
> different to all the
> > promos that have been issued during the history of
> the band.  (The only
> > difference might be in a wider distribution,
> including directly to fans
> > or passport holders.)
> >
> > Lots of fans, including some Kollectors on this
> list, have bought
> > Hawkwind promos in their time.  All those promos
> also say "for
> > promotional use only, not for sale," and all of
> them were also
> > ultimately paid for by the band.  In the case of
> vinyl, fans may have
> > bought more than one of the same item over time,
> when a better copy
> > turned up.  They likely will have *GASP* sold
> their old one when that
> > happened.  Are those fans committing a "RIP OFF"
> of Hawkwind?  (I've
> > never heard anyone complain about it in the past.)
>  When I've seen
> > people announce their Hawkwind collection for
> sale, I've never seen the
> > caveat, "oh, except the promos, because that would
> be a doubleplus
> > ungood RIP OFF of the band." :-)
> >
> > This is all getting a bit strange.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul.
> > --
> > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
> >
> > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a
> bunch of boring production
> > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> >        --- Frank Vincent Zappa
>




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