HW Space Ritual

[mike coleman]

it's all madness, twisted madness......delicious, lovely, chaotic
madness......(I think HW is bad news for the USA myself, as it SHOULD BE)
I've just had a japanese Hawklords LP return to me after 7 years and a
german one return several months ago
what are the odds of that???
I must seek relief from bumped LP corner sickness.......


On 1/20/09, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I thought Hawkwind had a visa issue coming to the states. I know they
> played that one festival on the east but...
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> From: mary <maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:26:22 PM
> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual
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> You can imagine the expense of keeping Hawkwind on the road.  The sad part
> was there was a lot of the country the didn't reach live, and that's a
> shame.  It's just so big, and touring by bus and truck costs a lot.
>
> Kaduflyer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Colin Allen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:40 PM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual
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>
> Steve,
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> I suspect that many people do not realise just how much money is needed to
> keep a gigging band going.  For the level of fees being discussed, it is
> virtually impossible to make money out of playing live; rehearsals almost
> have to be done out of goodwill and a professional desire to make everything
> as good as it can be.  When people live all over the country, this can be
> very difficult to achieve.
>
> When former members of what is still the biggest-grossing spacerock band in
> the UK have stated that they could not make a living being in that band, and
> that all of their "fees"  were taken up in travel costs to and from
> rehearsals or were not sufficient for them to get off benefits, then what
> hope is there for anyone?
>
> Sloppiness is never excusable when a paying audience is involved but I
> sometimes feel that audiences need to take account of the realities facing
> musicians.
>
> Colin
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> --- On Tue, 20/1/09, Steve Pond <Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK> wrote:
> From: Steve Pond <Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK>
> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Date: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009, 3:46 PM
>
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:26:36 +0000, you sent through the ether:
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> >They're all rehearsed and in practice before he arrives
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> There's Not enough money for Gigs -and- rehearsals.. something has to
> go! rehearsals are expensive when the band lives in all corners of the
> country, so you have to add up transport, accommodation & rehearsal
> room fees.. that takes care of a grand easily.
>
> So assuming 200 people go to a SR gig that is £10 on the door that's
> half the money.. how many people in SR? 6 so we're left with 1000
> divided by 6 which is £166.. then lets say they had 2 rehearsals, so
> over 3 days each member earned £55 per day. probably less that they'd
> generate staying home and doing whatever they do normally, and pretty
> close to minimum wage!
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> You could say they can rehearse at Nik's, but you still have to remove
> a minimum of £500 expenses, train tickets, fuel etc.
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> That leaves 1500 divided by 6 divided by 3 = £83 per day each.
>
> And my calculations don't take into account the roadies the lightshow
> people, dancers travel expenses etc.. and I guarantee they get paid
> before the band do.
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> So as much as I agree Nik & his bands need to rehearse more, I
> completely understand why they don't.
>
> ...and when Krankschaft start advertising for a drummer it will be
> hard explaining that we're doing it for the love of it!
>
> -S.
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